Episode 23: Q&A with Fro99yWo99y1, the World's Fastest Sparrow Racer
This week on Destiny Massive Breakdowns, we share an interview with the world's fastest SRL Racer: Fro99yWo99y1. Read on for the Q&A transcript, and listen for additional analysis and tips not included in that formal Q&A.
Just got through listening to the podcast and I loved it, I also really liked the additional input you guys had on the things I failed to mention. -Fro99yWo99y1
How to be the very best, like no one ever was (at SRL)
So tell us about yourself: How did you get started in Destiny? What do you do when you’re not setting world records in SRL? Anything else you’d like to share?
I’ve always been a fan of the Halo games and thought I’d give Bungie's new game a try. Little did I know it would quickly become one of my favorite games of all time. I’m currently a college freshmen looking to major in computer science so life can get busy at times, but luckily SRL lined up perfectly with my winter break.
The GameCube version of Mario Kart was my first video game ever and really started my love for racing games in general. I also have a hobby where I try to solve Rubik’s cubes as fast as possible, so this combined with my racing experience fit together perfectly in SRL.
Let’s talk about your SRL speedrunning methodology: What’s your preferred Sparrow? Any general tips for racers looking to follow in your ion trail?
If the overdrive on the raid sparrows is used enough it ends up being much faster than trick sparrows, so naturally I prefer to use them. I specifically use the timebreaker, but the graverobber works just as well.
This year in SRL it seems that Bungie made some changes to how the raid sparrows work. The destruction overdrive (which happens if you hold the overdrive for too long) is about twice as fast as it was last year, and can be used to make up a lot of ground as you approach the finish line. Sadly, with these changes a glitch was created that causes the raid sparrows to randomly explode which I will try to explain later.
As for some general tips, I would recommend learning the maps and practicing with trick sparrows before making the switch to the raid sparrows. The raid sparrows have much worse handling and are very punishing if you miss a gate because of their inability to do tricks to regain boost.
If you are looking to try out the raid sparrows, then you’ll want to make sure you’re pushing the overdrive to its limit throughout the whole race to get the maximum benefit. I typically use the overdrive in between gates and let it rest as I go through them, but as long as you use it to its full potential you should be fine.
When taking a turn, you want to try and position your camera in the direction you want to go and side boost through gates to maintain top speed. Also, you’re going to want to use the full racing gear, especially the helmet with the air control perk which allows you to pitch your sparrow to reach the ground faster.
Those are some great tips! Taking a quick aside, your SRL times are one thing, but you also won a contest on reddit for getting Sparrow wrecking balls in Trials - tell us about that. How much time, effort, and wiping went into it?
That was a fun little event where the challenge was to see if you could get two wrecking balls while only using your sparrow. I just figured since I was so good at hitting gates in SRL, maybe I’d try my luck on hitting a few guardians in Trials.
Finding people to do this with was hard because no one wants their kd to be ruined by some guy goofing off on a sparrow. I ended up having to search through the casual trials section on LFG and found some guardians wanting to farm for passage coins. It took about 8 hours to get both wrecking balls and a lot of luck. I just kept trying to bait the other team into the building on First Light and eventually it worked out.
Okay that's awesome! Your dedication is no less impressive than the skill it took to pull that off. Bringing our focus back to SRL, let’s talk about each map one at a time:
Campus Martius: The Mars track is full of twists, turns, and obstacles, and has a well known shortcut, too. You finished 2nd in the world here last year, and have bested that time by 4 seconds already this year. What are your best tips for finishing first on the red planet?
Towards the beginning of the track there is a split in the paths, you can either go over or under. If you hit the gates properly the under path ends up being faster than the over path because with the over path you miss a gate which causes you to lose speed.
Then comes the downward spiral turn which is probably one of the hardest turns to master in the game. You’ll want to have at least three side boosts to take this turn properly by cutting along the left wall and repositioning your camera with each side boost.
I see a lot of people having trouble clearing the gap after the man cannon on mars while using the air control helmet. If you enter the center of the man cannon and pull back slightly as you go through it, you should be able clear the gap with ease.
The fans can be tricky, but aren’t too bad once you get used to them. Instead of focusing on which fan blade you should avoid, try focusing on the open spaces in between the fans to try and position yourself so you can slide through them.
The reason I have been able to beat last years time on this map by such a large margin is by using a trick that I believe was discovered by Epicookiez over on Playstation. He found that if you use the destruction overdrive to blow yourself up as you enter the man cannon, it will spawn you right in front of the gate before the fans. This is likely because there’s a gap between the man cannon and the cliff edge, so if you die in the air it will spawn you at the next closest area with solid ground. This saves about a second per lap if you can time it correctly.
Haakon Precipice: The Earth track takes us on a slalom course up and down the side of the Felwinter Peak area, through dangerous snowy environs filled with impressively difficult obstacles - but I notice it’s your second fastest time. Do you have any advice for Guardians troubled by rotating satellite installations, the woods near the end, or that f@$&ing forklift?
The beginning of this track is fairly straightforward, just try and cut the turns as close to the wall as possible and make sure you are using the air control helmet after the large jumps to get to the ground as fast as possible.
There’s two places where the paths split left and right. In my opinion the left paths are faster, but I haven’t tried timing each one to confirm this.
For the rotating pillars, I try to determine where the they are going to be based on how far away I am from them. You’ll sometimes be forced to slow down in order to hit the gates, but with the raid sparrows you can use the overdrive to speed up if you see that a pillar is about to get in your path.
That darn forklift has ruined a couple runs of mine, but if you angle the camera correctly and side boost through the gate before it, you should be able to pass on the left side of it every time. Also for the trees just keep your sparrow in a straight path as much as possible and you should be able to dodge them.
Infinite Descent: Venus is a location you conquered last year, and you’ve improved on that time this year. With sharp turns and long straightaways, it’s the fastest track in the rotation. What are things to watch out for (and things to take advantage of) as we try to optimize our time in Vex territory?
This track is my personal favorite because it’s the only track without any obstacles blocking gates and it also has the most potential for the raid sparrows because of the long straightaways.
After the first few turns there is a split in paths where you can go either left or right. The right path ends up being faster in this situation because it eventually crosses over to the left and lines you up with the next gate outside the cave.
After this is the waterfall drop where you’ll want to use the air control helmet to get to the ground and pull back right before you hit the ground to prevent taking fall damage. The ‘shortcut’ on this map where you would go left through a hole in the wall instead of taking the S curve ends up being slower because you skip a gate.
Right after the S curve you’ll hit a ramp where you’ll want to pull back to stay in the air long enough to be able to clear another bump in the road that would slow you down otherwise.
It turns out that because Bungie buffed the speed of the destruction overdrive, on the third lap it’s about a second faster to skip the last gate and instead begin the destruction overdrive right before the second to last gate and hug the wall while side boosting to the left into the finish line.
Shining Sands: Speaking of Vex Territory, deja vu! Mercury is perhaps the most unique map in the rotation, with massive jumps, teleporters, and obstacle-strewn half-pipes unlike anything we see on the other maps. Is this finally a course where you favor the trick sparrows? Are there any secrets or techniques you can share to help us navigate the course successfully? And can you see the Lighthouse from here?
This track is in my opinion the hardest to effectively use the raid sparrows on, however they do end up slightly beating out the trick sparrows. At the start of the track is an upward spiral with a sharp right turn. You want to try and stick to the right edge of the curve while slowly turning your camera as you go up. Then turn the camera all the way right and side boost to line yourself up for the next gates.
After this is a split in paths where you can either go to the right around a pillar or cut left through a ramp along the wall. Cutting left creates a straight path for the next gate and is much faster than going around on the right.
After this is the halfpipe and in my opinion the most annoying obstacle in SRL…the rotating panels. Because they are directly behind the gates, you are sometimes forced to either skip the gate or slow down to hit it. I can’t really provide any tips for this other than hope that they aren’t in your way and try not to smack into them if they are.
Next is the large half circle that connects to the other halfpipe. If you are using raid sparrows, you want to try and conserve your side boosts as much as possible in this section because you are going to need them later to cut the corners near the man cannons.
The trick sparrows can be more lenient here and can use side boosts to avoid the columns along the half circle. After the second halfpipe is another sharp turn. If you are using a raid sparrow you want to take this turn using only one side boost, but if you have a trick sparrow you could probably use more as long as you do tricks during the upcoming man cannon jumps.
For the split in paths I’m not sure if either path is faster than the other, but I usually just take the right path because that’s the one I’m typically lined up for coming out of the turn. After you get launched out of the last man cannon you want to pull back enough so that you land on the downhill slope instead of the top of the hill. This will help stop you from bouncing around and missing the gate towards the bottom.
Okay, so we’ve covered the tracks pretty thoroughly at this point. A final few questions. First, any final tips that have come to mind from talking us through the tracks one by one?
If you are using the raid sparrows then at the start of each race you’re going to want to try your best to get ahead of the pack as fast as possible to prevent getting bumped around and pushed off course. A lot of this comes down to the RNG of which position you start the race in.
The ending can make or break your race and with the raid sparrows it’s even more important. You want to try and time the destruction overdrive to start early enough so that you blow up right when you pass the finish line. To keep yourself from accidentally holding the overdrive for too long what I do is listen for the beeps that happen after you’ve held it for a while. If you hear one or two beeps then you need to let off, because if you hear the third beep then you’re going to be in the destruction overdrive mode.
How do you feel about SRL sticking around in Private Matches after the Dawning ends?
I’m happy it’s going to be a permanent feature in the game, but I just hope Bungie brings the event back more than once a year in the future.
And how much room for improving times do you think is left on each of these maps?
Campus Martius and Shining Sands can be improved by a second or two because in my best runs on those maps I still didn’t hit all the gates. Infinite Descent and Haakon Precipice however, are going to be hard to beat without having a near perfect race.
Finally, I have to ask: do you see a competitive future for the game mode in tournaments and leagues, or will it remain a novelty in the Destiny universe?
The competitive future for SRL is a little uncertain because of the random explosion glitch. This is where I’ll try my best to explain the glitch in its entirety. Me and some of the top racers who use raid sparrows have noticed that there will be seemingly random moments where the raid sparrows will explode even though they have not entered the destruction overdrive sequence. Our theory is that there is some sort of latency/connection issue going on. If you are not chosen as host of your SRL lobby or if the host doesn’t have great connection, then there will be some latency between you and the host. So, when you release overdrive it doesn’t register that you have released it on their system and causes you to blow up randomly on your system. This is just our theory and we aren’t sure why it’s only happening this year, because it didn’t happen last year at all. Because of this glitch, any competitive SRL tournaments that startup will likely ban raid sparrows because they give an unfair advantage to the host of the lobby. This glitch also is very annoying for people going for the best times possible on the tracks just to randomly explode at any moment. I’ve seen quite a few posts about this on the forums and reddit, so hopefully if enough people become aware of this Bungie will be more inclined to fix it.
Thanks so much to you, Fro99ywo99y1, for taking the time to answer these, and I hope you all enjoy the interview and podcast, Guardians! Happy holidays!